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Red Seven

I'm usually extremely wary of conversations around "cultural fit." All too often (in my experience), people are deemed a "bad fit" within a particular "culture" when no one has bothered to define the culture or articulate what a "good fit" or "bad fit" looks like.

Most of the time, real performance issues that could have been corrected or at least discussed aren't, because those conversations require courage. Or, the other situation is that the culture needs to be changed so that talented people who come from a variety of different backgrounds CAN fit within the culture - but it's just easier to fall back on the "cultural fit" excuse and turn away talent that might challenge the status quo.

Here, you've done a really good job of actually defining a cultural tenet of an organization and what "fit" looks like, and doesn't. It's work that a lot of folks aren't doing - good job.

Kris Dunn

Red Seven -

I wasn't thinking this when writing the post, but you are right - lots of people talk about cultural fit, but it's a big "glittering generality" thing that no one usually defines. Oddly enough, I was drawn to be specific not due to that reality, but rather to the fact that we had a team member who was rejecting candidates and others didn't understand why.

When I dug on why, it was specific elements of cultural fit, thus the project -

thanks for checking in - KD

Ann Bares

Kris-

Great post and article link. I think you're on to something big here with the focus on grit. A characteristic too often overlooked and undervalued today, and yet I completely agree with Thomas Edison's appraisal of its proportional importance. And there is a relationship to deliberate practice here as well - it takes incredible grit to do the things that lead to excellence and lasting success in a field or discipline.

As the mom of a couple of young adults, I also think about this a lot with respect to parenting - how do you raise people with grit?

Nice work!

nelking

I've used Carol Dweck's study for the past several years to explain to 13 year olds what most important for their success in life. I can tell you they are pretty much conditioned to believe that the smartest of them are bound for success.

I've also used it to explain to candidates what I'm looking for. If you have your grade point on your resume, I'm going to really dig into finding out what you did and how you got it done. Stories of over coming adversity in the workplace are the most enlightening.

Paul Hebert

The Dweck study highlights a very important element of getting people to perform.

When the success is based on "you're smart" you are communicating that the outcome is driven by DNA.

When the success is based on "you worked hard" you are communicating that the person controlled the outcome.

People want to be in control of their environment and their lives. Often we take that control away in subtle ways.

Alice Saunders

In your experience, who is more likely to put their GPA on a resume - the ones who think they're smart, or the ones who may not believe they're "naturally" smart, but work very hard in school? Any observations on that?

nelking

Interesting question Alice. I haven't made a study of that, but my initial reaction is it's usually those who don't have much work experience include their GPA. That's not a bad thing, but I am still going to dig into what they did, what they accomplished beyond just the grade.

Those who after 5 years work experience are still pointing to their GPA still value the grade measurment.

Resumes never paint the whole picture of a person, just like grade don't paint the whole picture of a student.

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