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April 07, 2009

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DG

Great article and right on the money! The moral of the story is that if the HR Business Partner is truly creating value by enabling effective supervisors (the management boots on the ground) to engage people, then no matter how sneaky a union might be, it cannot take root!

anti-union HR Guy

Unions are worthless in all but a few industries. Their tactics are often unfair and not representative of the majority of its members. Even with the lawyers they have hired and the politicians they have paid off to put this bill out, it obviously has so many flaws in it that even liberal Democrats are beginning to see through the smokescreens. Those ultra right-wing union folk are a dying breed; don't they know that the new generation of workers could probably care less about their union agenda?

Todays milennials should come up with their own union that adheres to sensible rules, universal beliefs and agreed on values. It would probably run the old school union guys out of business. Maybe then we'd have a lot more in common and could sit down at the table to really engage in a meaningful existence the way unions and management were meant to co-exist with each other.

HR Jobs

Great Article! Just one question @ anti union hr guy, if todays millennial should come up with their own union whats the guarantee that they would adheres to sensible rules, universal beliefs and agreed on values. They would most likely regress to the old school union customs as the precedents there are well camouflaged as successes. Can unions and management ever co-exist with each other?

Chris

Sure, unions may be bad for business. But when was business always right?

The deterioration in wages for the high school graduate with no college are directly related to the decline in unionization. Unions slow down businesses; they slow down economic growth. Maybe, just maybe, we need that.

Breakneck speeds of economic growth leave many underprivelidged and underskilled in its wake. Maybe slower growth is better for other measures of societal well-being, such as poverty, health, and literacy. Unions, on average, do secure higher wages. They do provide safer work environments and better support for injured workers.

The tradeoff between speed of economic growth and extent of unionization is worth considering in a society as polarized as the U.S.

Gary

Your father had the same disillusioning experience I had. When I was to a layoff, the union disappeared. The leaders' attitude was "better you than me." They cowered away, happy to sacrifice one of their own.

Travis Smith

There is so much that goes into a good union-free initiative, which companies need to have considering our President's commitment to the EFCA. I really like your FOE, but I changed it to FLOP in my personal presentations. P is your E changed for the acronym's sake (Personal Experience/Experience). I added the L which stands for LISTEN because that is something supervisors can do. While they may not be able to ask questions, they can make statements and listen for reactions. Also, often times associates will want to tell management and supervisors what's going on, especially if there is a relationship built (while obviously this will not be the case every time, but if it is then a union doesn't have a chance, except through the EFCA).

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