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March 13, 2009

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Joe

Word

Chris

Okay.... So you've got your panties all up in a bunch because someone took another shot at HR. I'm pretty sure that was his intention. But what exactly did he say that is wrong?

I'd bet that if you looked across the entire HR profession, Beatty has accurately described the average HR pro.

Matt

I have to agree with Chris. In the Fortune 500 HR world (which is the one I'm familiar with) you can literally count the number of world-class HR organizations with one hand (GE, IBM, Pepsico, J&J and P&G come to mind).

Kris' argument is similar to the Knicks complaining about how they get no respect. The truth is that these articles come out because in general as Kris says "the folks around you know whether you are any good or not as an HR pro. I guarantee that" - and in general HR doesn't like what it hears.

Kris Dunn

Chris -

So you're a long time reader, and I encourage HR folks to take accountability for the value THEY provide rather than reacting to articles like this, and you tell my my panties are in a bunch? Really?

HR people are like jr analysts at research firms (ring a bell? That's your profile, right?) There are good ones and bad ones, just like every profession.

Matt - You're more fair. I'll live with the assessment of those who rely on me. So will most good HR pros. Regardless of what the average indicates.

The message of the post is don't worry about what Fast Company or a professor with a Mic says. Just focus on getting better.

Joe - word..

Matt

Kris - in rereading your post I think I completely agree with your point. If you're delivering value to your organization it's pointless to get worked up over these articles.

That being said, the reason these articles keep appearing is because too many disfunctional HR organizations exist, and drag down the reputation of the entire profession in their wake.

Funny enough, BusinessWeek ran an article this week on the exact topic Prof. Beatty was addressing - HR metrics - IBM is prominently mentioned:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_12/b4124046224092.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_top+story

Eva

I like the positive spin you put on this - and turned it into a coaching opportunity.

I find it interesting that the entire article was a speculation with no convincing data to back up his argument - which is, ironically, the same behavior he criticizes.

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