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June 05, 2008

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Kelly Dingee

I have a CFO friend that just called out a liar - it was a candidate too - from a TPR - totally fabricated his staff accountant experience.

CFO was diplomatic (because the candidate FREAKED!) and said something to the effect of .....you know in accounting you really need to be honest and accurate about your experience, because it's one of those jobs if we hire you, we'll know when you start that it wasn't true.....fix your resume so that it reflects your real experience, not what the job calls for....

And of course, didn't hire the guy.......but this CFO is huge on honesty, credibility, integrity (I guess they all should be right?).....lying to him is the tip of the iceberg of multiple other issues an employee can have.

Kelly

Scott

I don't envy your (HR Pros) position. But in IT, it happens more than 50% of the time.

The "it was like that when I got here" is a classic. We can look at log files gringo, we know what you did!

Or the other favorite, "It worked like this yeaterday" when you know the function/service has been disabled for over a year.

I guess for us, calling everyone out just puts us in the unemployment line.

We are just as likely to get lied to from the CFO as an administrative assistant.

Jessica Lee

so, i'm thinking that the heart of the issue is in this line that you wrote--

"do you have the ability to get the decision/action that's in the best interest of the company changed..."

whether or not to call out the lie is really a question of whether what's in the best interest of the organization is at stake. it's just that how you say to someone, "i think you're lying," that isn't easy. staring them down sometimes is a good enough substitute. you know, one of those i-know-you-know-that-i-know what's going on here kind of glares.

man. when did the role of HR get so political? ugh. sometimes just administering LOA daily seems like heaven...

Tracy

I work in a server support environment, and I have had coworkers lie to me about their level of effort on tasks. When they call me and ask me for help or try to hand off the problem/workload, I usually offer to assist them by working through it with them together. First, I'll ask what they've done -- and if I notice that they haven't done it, I just state, "The logfile shows that nobody has performed xyz activity since such and such a date." Then, I will state that I don't see evidence that the issue had even been worked and what I needed them to perform are steps 1 through 5 and then call me back so we can work through issues together. I usually don't get calls back unless the issues are legitimate issues. And, the individual is usually prepared for the questions I will ask. I believe that this approach has made me stronger in the workforce, so I use it on others. It does nobody any good to pretend they believe somebody who is lying.

Now, I do have a coworker who has the sickest dog on the planet and has contractors over or errands to run every week. In short, he has the worst attendance problem. So, when he says he has to go for reason X or reason Y, I may crack a joke stating that he has the sickest dog on the planet or that he already had his window crack fixed last week, but I really can't verify either way the truth of his stories. So, I just leave it at that.

HR Wench

I have a recruiter friend that was interviewing an internal candidate that claimed to have a Juris Doctorate (which was required for the position). Turns out he didn't...and I think he was caught in a couple of other lies as well. Guess what his response was when he was confronted by corporate counsel (hiring manager)? "Witness Protection Program"

My friend about peed her pants.

Alexandra Levit

Kris, I would think that if anyone has a justification to confront a liar, it would be the HR guy. Lying is bad for business.

But I would agree that there's a time and a place. If the lie is relatively harmless, or you aren't 100% sure that the person is in fact lying, then it might not be worth it to stir the pot.

Thanks to you and Lisa for continually discussing these difficult issues that HR pros face every day and no one ever talks about. You guys should write a book!

Best,

Alexandra Levit
Author, Success for Hire
Blogger, Water Cooler Wisdom
http://www.alexandralevit.com

Lisa

Kris, I appreciate the post, the link, and all of the great comments. Lying is bad, honesty is good . . . .and then there is the gray.

You hit it right on when you said, "What's at stake with the decision the lie is influencing? Is it a throwaway, or an important item? What's the political power of the individual you are calling out? Are you going to get hurt? Do others have your back?"

That's whay we get paid the big bucks, ha!


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