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June 10, 2008

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HR Minion

I can't imagine that kind of embarrassment causing people to want to fly more. Though the airline reality shows on cable would LOVE it. People will do what they want to do, and wielding a big stick doesn't change that. I think that encouragement, opportunities, and communication are the only ways that wellness programs can be effective. You either accept that people have to want and commit to change, or you need a much bigger stick than higher prices.

Jessica Lee

it's not a horrible idea. i get all worked up on this one... employers talk of possibly not hiring smokers because of the costs to insure them - but what about those overweight or obese? but if airlines are going to charge more... i think clothing manufacturers need to consider charing more for larger sizes too. think about it - how much more cloth is needed to make a size 20 dress versus a size 2 dress? hmmmm. let's think about that one.

seeing this is america though, and the larger out-weigh, i mean out-number me, this will probably get no where. says the CDC, the percent of non-institutionalized adults age 20 years and over who are overweight or obese: 66.3%.

amazing.

chris

Kris,
I am guessing you're referring to the stick when you say "you probably won't see that coming to your company-sponsored health plan any time soon."

Companies *are* implementing "carrot" initiatives for health and wellness. These are certainly easier to carry out - rewarding for good behavior as opposed to penalizing bad behavior. But I am aware of at least one company who has implemented a health "stick". Granted, it's not obvious, and not advertized as a penalty, but this company overcharges for unhealthy items in its various vending machines. This "tax" is a penalty for making an unhealthy choice in snack consumption at work. They made other changes as well (including adding more healthy choices to vending machines and promoting "carrot" wellness policies), so it's not clear whether the tax caused the reduction in unhealthy choices consumed, but a reduction did occur.

So it is possible to implement penalties for bad choices within a health/wellness program. And it has been done. But I agree with the general premise that it is much more easy to implement rewards for good behavior. Moreover, if you design the program correctly, the use of carrots can be economically equivalent to the use of sticks. (e.g. charge everyone $150 & give $50 rebate to non-smokers; or charge everyone $100 and give $50 tax to smokers).

laurie ruettimann

Kris, the solutions are so EASY.

Pull employers out of the business of insuring employees and the carrot/stick approach is unnecessary. Then pay your employees based on performance, make your CEO accountable, and ensure that your board of directors is staffed with responsible individuals who have the best interest of the company at heart.

Like I said, so easy. So simple. :)

Kris Dunn

JLee - 66%... Daaaaaaang....

chris - You're right - defining incentives as carrot or stick is positioning.... Easy to position the stick as a carrot rather than a stick....

K

Chad A. Hanson

Personally, I think this is a great idea, and I say this as someone who has lost a lot of weight but would not be described as "skinny"

But as an HR professional think of the discrimination claims this will bring up. Just to name a few.

Just to name two, weight can be culturally specific or due to a disability (diabetes) which will generate lawsuits.

I think it’s a likely bet that this charge will lose more cash to legal fees then it will generate.

William H Wantuck

Weight vs Aireline ticket cost.. Why can't someone develop a simple formula for weight? The cost of a ticket is not linear with weight. Other factors (labor, food, amortization, airport charges etc.) do not go up with weight. This approach is often referred to as a Quantitative Analysis approach. Willam Wantuck, Houston

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