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May 30, 2008

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laurie ruettimann

Is it about the money or the fact that a company acknowledges that employees have an implicit choice to make? You either want to work here or you don't, Chumpsky. I agree that $1000 may not be the magic number, but the act itself takes the language of victimization out of the workforce. You're not there for the health insurance or the congo line (although those bennies might be great). You're here to do a job, yo.

Mark

Hi Kris,

You are absolutely right about the difficulty in fixing the offer to the right amount. To me, though, this is part of how markets work; at any given price, you don't get the exact same response from every individual, so some unengaged folks will stay on anyway and folks you wished would stay might leave. What you are after is enough unengaged folks taking the offer balanced with enough engaged folks staying. This mechanism allows Zappos to make an adjustment in order to shift that more in the direction they want for a certain cost, and that's what I found really fascinating as a more tangible way to measure engagement.

Mark

David Zinger

It is interesting to think about the offer in both the money and symbolic terms. I think the $1000 stands out and agree that it is not really so much about the moeny. Based on the number of posts I have seen about this offer I think it works as it obviously got lots of bloggers' attention so I would imagine it would get the employee attention and that may have been the intention all along.
David

Kris Dunn

Hi guys and gals (Laurie, David, Mark) -

Agree with all the comments, which concur that the move has a lot of symbolic value. I also noted that I'm monday morning quarterbacking a little bit with this one in the orginal post.

With your points noted, give me your perspective on reaching the mythical sweet spot on an offer like this. For a 30K job, what do you think is the right offer to ensure you pick off as many "non buy-ins" as possible while minimizing the loss of the truly engaged?

Thanks - KD

Charles H. Green

Kris,

I'd like to see the Zappos idea and raise it--by an exponent.

What if we redefined the role of search firms to institutionalize the process of confronting people with the possibility of leaving or staying?

Please pop over to

http://trustedadvisor.com/trustmatters/365/A-Simple-Idea-to-Radically-Increase-Employee-Engagement

to read more about the idea.


Brief bio: I’m co-author with David Maister of The Trusted Advisor, author of Trust-based Selling, speaker and seminar leader on the subject of trust in business relationships.

Many thanks,
Charlie Green


Chris Young

Your post makes me wonder how many people will try to get the job with the intent on quitting in the first place. Therefore - by raising the amount, they might actually attract more "posers" who really do not want to job - they just want the free $$$.

Great post as usual, Kris...

Breanne Potter

I love this concept. But, why only offer this in the early stages of employment? I think there can be more deadweight and lack of engagement over the course of the next 5 years. I think an annual "offer" would be interesting. We all know people who hang around a job because they are on the fence about whether they want to stay or not. Sometimes leaving just takes too much effort, so people stay put and just put in their 8 hours everyday. The same thing goes with relationships. People stay in a relationship because it takes to much effort to go through breaking up. What if the significant other offered an attractive "buy-out" to test the couples strength? You get the dogs, I get the plasma tv....

Interesting...

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