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January 30, 2008

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Michael Haberman, SPHR

I think they would be better off comparing themselves to other retail operations. I don't know the numbers but I would guess that most retail operations that rely on a majority of part-timers as employees would have similar numbers.

EKM

The math doesn't work... if 7.3% are uninsured, only 92.7% are covered. A bad example of HR math!

Evil  HR Lady

Back in college, I had a summer job at Kmart. I was trying to save as much money as possible. Therefore, I wanted as many hours as possible.

They would only allow me to work 20 hours a week--more than that (if I recall) would make me a "full time" employee and, therefore, eligible for benefits.

End result? I had to take a second job (at Burger King!) to get my 40 hours a week.

I didn't need health insurance. As a full time student, I was still on my parents' insurance.

If you had forced Kmart to provide insurance to me, there is a good likelihood that I wouldn't have gotten the job at all.

Not all people need health insurance from their employer. If we start requiring it, the people who have the lowest skill levels will be out of a job. I may be worth $5-$6 an hour to you, but if you have to pay my health insurance, my cost to you goes up substantially. Therefore, you'll hire someone who is worth more.

Kris

Mike -

I agree. The trend that I believe and is cited in the press release, and that John Hollon cited, was 60% of eligible employees take benefits in most retail orgs. No question, they would have been better off to show how they have closed the gap.

Evil - The last thing I would want when I was buying hairspray and a copy of GQ back in the day at Wal-Mart is to see someone like you, jaded and judging, behind the counter (ha). I didn't really mean that WM should offer benefits to everyone and drive teens out of employment, just that their spin leaves a lot to be desired. Also, 50% of those eligible would not have included you, and wouldn't you expect the employee contributions to be so high that most people eligible don't take it?

EKM - WM didn't mess up the math in the post - I did. Cancel my rotation through Finance, and I need a vacation....

KD

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